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I don't often post party political stuff, My vote is my own and your vote is your own, but should you be a UK voter and considering voting BNP on Thursday could I please ask you to read this first. Thank you.
http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?31638-A-word-on-the-policies-of-the-BNP

Date: May. 3rd, 2010 05:35 pm (UTC)
ext_15862: (Bang Bang)
From: [identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com
I went to look at their web site to see if they admit to some of that stuff there, but their site is remarkably silent on any issue relating to women.

They appear to want Britain to return to a fluffy bunny rural paradise and make us all small farmers. It's a nice pipe dream (and one I like on my rose-tinted days), but people like http://www.theblackfarmer.com/ are just as much entitled to be a part of British rural life as anyone else.

I notice in passing that they're also climate change deniers. Not quite sure where that fits into their ideology. Maybe it's seen as one of those things that 'European bureaucrats' want?

I never knew that it was immigrants forcing us out of our houses... Here was me thinking it was the growing trend towards single-occupancy houses (like so many of my single friends) that was the root cause. Clearly, I shall have to shoot the only black person in our village as he's single-handedly responsible for the soaring house prices here.

Date: May. 3rd, 2010 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] birdsedge.livejournal.com
I think the BNP have got their heads in a bucket and they're shouting so loud that they can't hear the world outside. Going back is not an option. I find them truly terrifying and inhuman.

However, I'm veering a little towards wanting to ask more questions about climate-change (not entirely denying it, but examinining what we're told more closely) because while I think there's a very good case for cleaning up our act, fossil-fuel-wise, I think there are a lot of questions we need to ask about the cost (financial and social) of so-called green energy (or energy from renewable resources) and that some of the solutions we're putting into place are very short-sighted. Until an opportunistic scheme threatened to put the village where I live into the danger zone for four giant wind-turbines, I'd swallowed the green=windfarms=good line, but now I've done a lot more reading on the subject and I know it's not as simple as that.

But I'd rather have a wind-farm in my back yard (literally) than have the BNP in any kind of position of power.

Date: May. 3rd, 2010 09:15 pm (UTC)
ext_15862: (Save the Earth)
From: [identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com
I agree that wind energy is far from being a perfect solution. I have many reservations in that area myself. eg. If you build wind turbine in a boggy area, the methane release from the bog and the carbon cost of the cement could outweigh much of the carbon saving. You've got problems of transmission losses (as wind turbines are rarely close to centres of population), etc. The turbines themselves can cause all sorts of problems from flicker when the sun is behind them, to danger to migrating birds.

Politicians like wind turbines. It makes it look as though they're doing something about the problem, and means that they don't have to tell people that they need to change their lifestyles.

Wind *sounds* good. I notice the government are giving grants for baby turbines on roofs, in spite of the fact that the majority of them will never generate as much power as it took to make them in the first place. Roof top turbines are pretty useless - but they make wonderful sound-bites.

However, I don't think the problems with 'green' energy undermine the science behind climate change. The basic science behind increasing CO2 (and other gasses) and heating of the atmosphere is solid.

Myself, I'm firmly on the side of reducing consumption. I won't claim my lifestyle is carbon neutral, because it isn't. However, last time I looked at the figures, I was way below the UK average carbon footprint.

Date: May. 3rd, 2010 09:16 pm (UTC)
ext_15862: (Bang Bang)
From: [identity profile] watervole.livejournal.com
The BNP are jerks.

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